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Can You Ask For More Money After Accepting A Job Offer

  • CustomerS3rvic3 *

    Thanks. Helpful info every bit always!

  • Em from CT *

    Would love to hear from folks (either Alison or the commentariat!) on negotiating salary in jobs that accept strict civil service bands, similar country or federal authorities. Is at that place ever whatever elbowroom? Is there ever a way to negotiate non-salary perks given the constraints on salary?

    1. Non your average state employee *

      I work in state government and the just real success I have seen in negotiations is done through demonstrating you have more years of experience than what they are currently computing the salary on.

    2. CA Country Civil Service *

      For state of California hiring, there is leeway on pay within the allowable range. It is called "hiring above minimum" aka "HAM." Non all departments will HAM new hires and some put in their advertisements that employees volition be hired only at the minimum.

      I'd say if you lot are trying to get into California country civil service, effort to get HAM because once yous're in, you're sort of "locked in" until you change classifications. This is especially important in any classifications that have, at whatever point, been "deep classed" meaning there are at present fewer classifications, but a broader pay range. This is good in that you don't have to go through the whole application and interview process to keep moving up the pay range, but bad in that if you're starting at the low cease, information technology may be a long time before you have the take a chance to leap to a higher grade. So if y'all meet a really wide $$ range in a class and a lot of experience needed before you can spring to the next class, yous want to HAM if you lot can or yous could trail behind your peers who got a HAM for many years.

      I had no idea about HAM when I started with the state. I was a high level performer for years when I learned nigh it. I so tried to get my pay increased to my peers who were hired above minimum and earning $10k/year more than than me and was told the ONLY manner that could happen is if I had a competing job offer that the department would then try and lucifer. Otherwise, as well bad, and then lamentable.

      (What ended up happening as a outcome of them telling me to look for another job was I got an offer then good that they couldn't match it if they wanted to. And then I am no longer in the ceremonious service.)

    3. Another Govt Employee *

      State government here– I take never successfully negotiated not-bacon perks, although I ask every year at raise time. I take had success at request to kickoff higher up on the pay band before, normally framing it as "I know there are strict guidelines, is there any leeway for me to start at x level, given these reasons"

    4. ampersand *

      I haven't had whatsoever luck negotiating salary. I've tried two or 3 times at unlike state jobs and was told every time that the amount existence offered was terminal. I haven't tried negotiating with perks or benefits merely I assume the answer would exist the same, given the rigid rules in place regarding, for example, how vacation accrual is based on years of service.

    5. Murphy *

      Be familiar with the pay bands and ranges for the position to make certain you lot're not being underpaid! I worked for my land (still do, but dissimilar task) and received a promotion with a 20% raise. I was thrilled then I accepted it. I was relatively new and then I wasn't familiar with the arrangement of job classifications and salaries. I found out a few years later that I was being paid well below what the salary should have been based on that info.

    6. Melissa *

      I'grand in local government and agree that yous're pretty well only going to be able to negotiate on actual salary, benefits are role of a union negotiated contract usually. For salary, you should exist prepared to explain why your experience merits the step you're requesting (pay scales should be publicly available, do your research)

      1. A Genuine Scientician *

        For formal benefits, yeah. You might be able to negotiate certain other things that are actually discretionary.

        And so, as an instance, I work at a state university in a purely teaching role. Things such every bit bacon and formal benefits weren't actually a negotiable slice; I was brought in at the same bacon level as 3 other people hired at the same time, and benefits such as health insurance and retirement matching are contractual through the marriage. We also don't really accumulate any PTO, so that wasn't an pick either. But there are a number of things that have always been available "with the blessing of your director". So, I successfully negotiated "For the past iv years, I take taught X form (in a different department) on top of my full-time responsibilities. Considering it's considered overage, it is contingent on approving from my manager. Can I have your approval to continue doing that?"

        The twelvemonth I was funded from a source other than our typical renewable source, I also asked if I could accept someone cover a class session if I got a kinesthesia interview that I couldn't schedule around my course load, the same equally we did for the role time temporary faculty, and got that approved likewise (and was commended for not putting all my eggs in i basket).

    7. Bearding Koala *

      The merely time I've seen this piece of work in fed gov is when you're electric current bacon is higher than the named range for the task.

    8. Sara *

      I was able to negotiate in a job like this because they definitely wanted to rent me and the corporeality they were offering me was simply too low compared to a like part I had been in. They had to requite me a championship bump besides ("Senior Llama Herder" vs "Llama Herder") though.

    9. FedPants *

      I work for the federal government and negotiated a higher salary when I started; and I'm a hiring manager, so I accept been on both sides of the equation. When I started I was new to the feds and didn't fifty-fifty know what a salary schedule was, so I said "a lot of other jobs I'm looking are offering $##, any flexibility on that?" (near 7500 over the offer, because my prior task change had got me a 10k raise). It was likewise right in the eye of the pay band. They said they would see, and 2 weeks later on they offered me a step with a bacon college than the one I asked for (initally offered me a pace i, offered me a step iv). Now that I've done it on the flip side: the person askes for a number (match or higher), 60 minutes comes to me and says "exercise you approve of offering them a Footstep North?" then I write a memo affectionately called "Superior Quals" where I reiterate a few points from their resume or interview about how they will fill a critical gap and that's it so hard to hire people with this skill gear up. It's easier when it'due south a match to current bacon. I had someone who wanted to match their salary from a previous job, and I tried to justify bringing them in at a step 7 (equal to footstep 1 of the next form, not unheard of), but it was the only fourth dimension i was denied, because it wasn't matching current salary- so basically, current salary, not best bacon matching.

    10. Constance Lloyd *

      I recently accepted a position with land regime and brainstorm working there side by side month and then my knowledge is express, but in my example I was offered a pay band above the listed amount because of my experience. I didn't have to negotiate, they merely adjusted earlier making the offer.

  • Caboose *

    I wish I'd done this before starting my current job. I got laid off, and then I sort of had to take whatever was available, but it wound upwards beingness a huge decrease in pay from the job I lost. Now, I'm sort of only trying to stick it out because I'chiliad learning a lot of best practices that were totally missed at the last place, just man, the pay state of affairs really stinks.

    1. Thursdaysgeek *

      Aye, me too. Merely, I'1000 nearing* retirement age, and I really like my electric current chore (except for the salary). I have finally caught back up to where I was, but it sure would accept been overnice without that huge hit to my overall earnings.

      *Nearing – as in the side by side couple of years, unless it is less.

  • Oreo *

    Give thanks you then much for all of this Alison! So helpful.

  • awesome3 *

    How do you know which pay scales are set in stone, for case a school commune, or where there is room for negotiation? Someone recently wrote in that they negotiated a regime salary, which I didn't know y'all could practise. From reading this column my understanding is that most are negotiable, I wouldn't want to be in a situation where I thought it was prepare in stone when information technology was not

    1. Nethwen *

      I don't have an answer for you, but I practice piece of work in a field where the listed salary is non-negotiable and we can't offer other perks, either. I wouldn't concord information technology against someone if they asked if the salary were negotiable, even during the interview stage. Sure, it's common knowledge in the field that salaries are rarely negotiable, but sometimes they are, and so information technology makes sense that a candidate would ask. You piece of work for money – it makes sense that yous'd want to know upward front if the position is worth pursuing! I know not everyone thinks that way, so maybe this comment isn't helpful.

      I do list the salary in the job advert and employ the phone screen to say, "The salary is $X. Unfortunately, there's no room for negotiation. Is that within your acceptable range?" I don't know how this comes across to applicants, merely my intent is to exist as articulate as possible and to raise the salary issue so that the applicants don't take to stress over how or when to bring it up.

    2. kate *

      I got a pedagogy job in a school district that counted my time in armed services service toward my experience, so I got a crash-land on the pay scale, but I know that probably doesn't help. :/

      1. awesome3 *

        That's a really skilful bespeak that at that place is some room for negotiation in terms of years of experience and what counts for that

  • Louise *

    I've been job searching and a lot of posts have the bacon range in the posting, which is great.
    If the interviewer asks me what my salary range is I've been asking them, listening to their ramble that eventually approaches a range, and and so sort of like-minded to it or not. Information technology's bad-mannered, but I'm not going to throw out a number first.

    An old colleague introduced me to someone and the employer emailed me their JD. The task looks interesting, but their max salary is 75% of my minimum salary. Is it fifty-fifty worth asking if there is room to move in their job description? If not, is there any reason to or way to tell either my old colleague or the employer that I'grand maxim no because of the bacon?

    1. sacados *

      If you're in contact with the employer already and so I would say definitely get ahead and ask — I think you can only be straightforward! Something like "oh I see information technology says your max is 30 but I'chiliad looking for something closer to YYY, is there any wiggle room on that because if not then I don't remember it makes sense to move forward"
      That way you're not inadvertently wasting anybody'due south time.

  • Nethwen *

    This summer, I used Alison's salary negotiating advice in my starting time negotiation with a vendor. I had always been told that to negotiate, y'all have to have something to offer the other person, which didn't make sense when nosotros, a tiny organization with no professional influence, are trying to go a vendor's product for cheaper.

    Recently, there was a product that would have benefited us, simply nosotros couldn't justify the listed toll. I sent an e-mail to the sales person, "Whatsoever chance it could be $Ten?" I didn't add whatsoever reasons or context, which felt rude or incomplete or something wrong.

    They agreed! They agreed to give us the production for 75% off the listing price – a listing price that was within market-rate, so it's not like they were overcharging to begin with. I'g still slightly astounded that it was so simple.

    1. sacados *

      Haha that's great! But I guess in that case what you're "offer" them is your business organization, then the thought process nevertheless holds up. If they're able to give the discount, then they get your business organisation; if they can't, then they (potentially) don't become your business.

    2. Not a Real Giraffe *

      This is, easily down, the best tip I ever learned for my profession. I work with a lot of vendors and practice a lot of negotiating on price. Earlier in my career, I'd look at the price on offer and take information technology at face value. My and then-boss often had me go dorsum to the vendor and inquire for a discount that I felt was wildly out of range. The vast majority of vendors gave united states what we asked for or negotiated with united states of america for something in the centre. It never hurts to ask – the worst they tin say is no! (The "any gamble it could exist…" phrasing is my go-to for this and it works all the time!)

    3. LPUK *

      in my concluding corporate role – my entire salary negotiation went 'How does 140 sound?" "150 sounds better!" "OK"

  • Transitioning *

    I'd love some examples of language effectually signing bonuses – is it better just to ask for information technology after/in addition to an agreed upon salary? Or to frame information technology every bit "In lieu of XXXX salary, tin can you consider a old signing bonus?"

    1. Murfle *

      I just verbally accepted a new job last week, and while I'yard still waiting for the official documents to sign, I was able to negotiate a signing bonus.

      I forget exactly who brought up the upshot of annual bonuses first, but I learned that the new visitor usually issues their annual bonuses at the end of the calendar yr. In contrast, my electric current employer bug theirs in March – and that as a result, I'd exist forgoing my bonus for work I've already washed past leaving earlier next March. While I might still exist eligible for a bonus in the new role, information technology will be heavily pro-rated because I will be starting so late in the year.

      The 60 minutes person asked what my current bonus was, and said that they'd meet if there was a way to recoup me for that. And then I institute out on Monday that my new boss approved a signing bonus of $5k. It was a pretty painless process!

    2. sacados *

      I sort of did something similar to that, although in my case I was relocating and so it might not be applicable to your situation.
      The company made me an offer, and so I asked if they did any sort of relocation assistance/moving expenses. The hiring managing director went off to cheque, and they came back to permit me know that they couldn't practise relocation (company policy said that they could but offer relocation packages to like, C-suite level positions), only they could give me a "signing bonus" that was meant to encompass those moving costs but they would just exist calling it a signing bonus instead.

  • Nicotena *

    One piece of advice I'd offering to anyone is, before you start negotiating, tell a friend what you're trying to do, effort part-playing the conversation and work on *spitting out the words* ("I was thinking of more than like $10") and ask them to concur yous answerable for getting it out there. I notice that information technology's difficult in the moment to say the words, and it'due south like shooting fish in a barrel to terminate up hedging or not really naming the number you lot want. I take to remind myself that the goal is to say it, not necessarily get it – getting it is out of your hands, but actually having the convo is upwardly to you.

    1. Jack Straw *

      The day I was pretty sure an offer was coming, I just walked around the house saying, "Is at that place room on the salary? I was hoping for something closer to X," over and over. Just getting used to saying the words helped so much!

      PS I had a revised offer letter for X in my invoice in less than 10 minutes.

    2. Gloucesterina *

      This is absurd – in that location'due south actually research bearing out this general concept that if you do saying something in a low-stakes/exercise situation, it will be easier and more natural to say in a real or high-stakes situation.

  • AppleStan *

    Thank you, Alison, for this compilation!

  • Jurassic Park Employee *

    Well, this is perfectly timed. I just finished the final circular of interviews for a chore and it's looking promising! Hopefully, I can put these tips into do soon.

  • Wisteria *

    I just got an offer that I did not negotiate bc it was then much better than what I would accept asked for! I was prepared to negotiate … so the offer came in at seniority level one higher than I was going to enquire for and at an enormous enhance. Reader, I said yes.

    1. sacados *

      I was in the same position when I started my current task earlier this year! I felt kind of weird about it, because "you lot're always supposed to negotiate, y'all don't want to exit money on the tabular array!!!" but at the aforementioned fourth dimension the offering was very proficient, and I really would accept been negotiating "just because."
      Not to mention the visitor had already explained to me their salary philosophy, which was that they research the candidate's market range for their function and then offer a bacon at the very top of that range. And so I felt like I actually would take had to come up with some specific justification for why their idea of my market value wasn't accurate.
      And in this case at that place really wasn't annihilation else to negotiate — benefits were very good, and this visitor does the "unlimited PTO" affair so it's not as if I could have tried asking for more than holiday time or something, haha.

      1. BRR *

        I would't necessarily trust they researched it correctly though. Did they provide their research?

        1. sacados *

          No, but I call back it notwithstanding comes down to the same affair. It would have felt weird to just ask for more money, full stop– rather than something like "considering of xyz reasons" I'thousand worth more.
          And like I said, it was an offer that I was perfectly happy with as is.

    2. Sparse Mints didn't brand me thin *

      I got an offer like that once. I withal asked for more — and I got it! Alas, the company was hit difficult by COVID; otherwise I would still be making that lovely, lovely money.

      1. Breakthrough Hall Upshot *

        Good piece of work! And, I'yard pitiful :(

  • Murfle *

    I was but verbally offered a new job at a different company last week, and the offer was 40% higher than my electric current salary. I was really simply hoping to get a 20% heighten, so when I heard the number, I was very pleasantly surprised and accepted without any additional negotiation. On top of that, they also offered me 1 more than week of vacation (merely to First) than what I'k currently getting from the company I've been with for 5 years!

    I have to admit that I *exercise* wonder if I've left money on the table, but considering they offered me and then much more than I was expecting to start with (and also offered me a signing bonus!), I am yet pretty satisfied.

  • Whiskey on the rocks *

    I just did this for the start time! I'm used to jobs that have no room for negotiation. I'm changing industries and wasn't certain how it works in my new i. I got the exact offering with the salary and benefits info. I asked for 24 hours to consider and and then expert out loud Alison's language: "thanks, I'm really excited almost this! For the bacon, would $x be possible?" I wrote it downward so I could follow my script because I knew I'd be nervous. I called the Hr manager, tried not to throw upwardly, said it perfectly, and and then stopped talking. She paused a moment and then said, "I recall we tin do that, permit me get blessing and I'll get dorsum to you tomorrow." She called me the adjacent morning with the approved increase. I had merely asked for virtually a 5% increase considering I wasn't sure how much room there really was, but I'grand actually proud of myself for asking and super pumped I got it!

  • Cat Feeder *

    Give thanks you!

  • PKT *

    I chose not to negotiate an offer I received a few weeks agone. At the HR screen phase, they said that the salary range would be between $X and $10+5k. This seemed reasonable and, frankly, on the generous side. The offer they made was for $10+7k. I accepted the next day without negotiating anything. Information technology really depends on your particular situation and your understanding of the market.

  • Sola Lingua Bona Lingua Mortua Est *

    The vacation ane especially is timely for me; thank you for organizing this so hands to access, Alison.

  • Brett *

    One thing that I learned is that the way an arrangement negotiates salary can tell you a lot nearly the organization.

    My first career job was in local government, and they offered me a prepare salary at the bottom of their range and promised annual raises. But and so reneged on almanac raise two years in, and merely kept doing that for the adjacent six years. Only after well-nigh 4 years in did I discover out that some people were given offers above the bottom of the range, but e'er based on things like if they had families, if they were local, did they have relatives in that location already, even where they went to high school. It was a huge red flag to how dysfunctional things actually were, even though I stuck around another 4 years.

    2nd job was every bit a contractor. The contract visitor asked my salary, and I told them that I wanted them to instead the marketplace rather than my salary history… they looked up my public record bacon instead and gave me x% above that, after already using the same number to negotiate my contract with the contracting company (and then I was locked in). I left inside 2 years, but it rapidly became clear that negotiating like that was a ruby flag of how they would heavy handily deal with employees and clients akin in a way that would quickly blow up their concern.

    3rd job, on the other hand, gave me a huge pay bump above starting based on my work history and the market. Fifty-fifty then, they continued to give me bumps in pay and responsibility year after year, including adjustments to a higher place marketplace because they believed me to exist an higher up market performer. I have seen their fairness in handling salaries and bonuses wax and wane over time, and the waxing and waning definitely reflects changes in direction that signal overall directions in the quality of the work environs. So far, and so good.

  • T J Juckson *

    I recently interviewed for a task that listed a very broad range (as in, $50K departure, where I wouldn't have bothered to use at the low finish). I flubbed the interview on multiple fronts, simply too felt bad-mannered when the salary issue did come. I blathered something well-nigh due to my experience, etc. that I'd want to be at the higher function of their range. But, actually, the real answer was, "I'grand not looking to have a pay cut. I'd need to be in the summit ane/3 of that range to brand this a viable consideration."

    In the future, should I exist giving a more than diplomatic version of that answer? Or, heck, exist that blunt? I'm reluctant to bring upwards my own current salary– because the job should be near the market, its role, etc., non any I happen to be making now– but I'm in a field with notoriously low salaries.

    I've read a lot of these links, and Alison's book!, and I still feel uncomfortable!

    1. Fabled *

      Personally, I love your pay cutting language. It'due south edgeless even so still diplomatic!

    2. BRR *

      I would say "I'1000 looking for a position that pays $x, is that without your budget."

      1. Belittling Tree Hugger *

        I like this script, delivered in a pleasant, open, and firm tone.

  • Elizabeth West *

    Thank you for this.
    I practice wish companies would stop request what salary I desire on the awarding. I don't know; I haven't talked to you yet!

    (Lots. That'southward the answer; merely…lots.)

    1. Macaroni Penguin *

      Yep, no kidding. I want lots of coin, please requite me that. In reality, it's hard to listing a desired salary considering applicants don't know what the benefits package looks like.

    2. Thin Mints didn't brand me thin *

      I have been known to enter "how much have you got?"

  • Macaroni Penguin *

    I've seen job postings ask that applicants list their desired salary range in their cover letter. Naturally, these are for jobs that don't listing a salary on the advertisement. How should applicants reply to this request?

    For me, I've always left this information off my encompass letter. Information technology's fine if the employer moves my awarding to the Practise Not Contact pile. I'one thousand concerned that listing low salary expectations volition accidentally result in a below average job offering. This strategy might not work for everyone.

  • have we met? *

    Ooh, thank you for the timing on this post!

    I have a "phone chat" tomorrow for an interesting position that had a posted salary much less than what I could have. Just no range. While it may be a step back in terms of responsibility, it's a bigger "brand proper name," so I'd be happy to add it to my resume. Merely if they can't come up on salary, there'southward no point in farther give-and-take.

    And now I know how to ask about information technology. :)

  • Fabulous *

    Are the rules for negotiation the aforementioned for an internal job? I may exist applying internally soon and while they're likely to take full transparency into my salary, I likely won't know the salary range of their position (unless it'south listed specifically for a land in which you have to disclose, which some internal listings are.)

    That being said, I'yard paid on the (style) depression terminate of my pay bracket, and I'll be applying to a job one-2 brackets above mine. Chances are I'g going to have to fight for higher pay… any tips??

    1. BRR *

      Same things apply. If they depression brawl you and say "it'southward an x% raise," respond with something about market rate for the position's blazon of work. Information technology might not feel like in that location's an opportunity so y'all might need to say "I would like to discuss the bacon for the new role."

  • StellaBella *

    Cheers Alison, I have just shared on my LinkedIn folio.

  • Thin Mints didn't make me sparse *

    Thank you for this, Alison! My dad taught me to negotiate at every offer, and it's one of the "privilege" things that has given me a better career than I might have had if I had come from a different family unit. Everybody should learn stuff like this!

  • Sullivmke *

    I've hired shut to 40 people in the concluding two.5 years at my job (nosotros're in serious growth mode!). Of those, I call up 2 have negotiated on salary. But I almost E'er have flexibility to offer more if they ask for it, and so I actually wish people would advocate for themselves more. And to be clear, we're making fair offers – our recruiters always ask what a candidate'southward salary expectations are and we balance that against the salary range when putting together an offer. If someone names a salary that's beneath our range, we just ignore that number and offer them a off-white salary within range. I don't try to lowball anyone, but if they ask for an additional $5k, it'due south pretty like shooting fish in a barrel to say aye. Beingness on the other side has helped me so much in my own negotiations. I ALWAYS ask now, and I know that even if they then no, they won't see me asking every bit a personal affront (and if information technology is, that's a company you do not want to piece of work for!).

  • AP *

    Is information technology frowned upon to use past salary history to raise a posted salary? The posted salary is ~72 percent of my current bacon, just in a geographically cheaper country (think NYC/DC to Baltimore/Philly). The benefits (particularly holiday fourth dimension) are way better so I'grand willing to drop a chip in salary for that, but wondering if I tin enquire them to increase the salary for the job past 8k-13k (nearly 13-20 percent of the posted salary), and if I should mention my electric current salary when I bring it up?

  • Fleur-de-Lis *

    Best advice I've gotten about negotiation from this site: practice Not volunteer past salary data, as it may actually be illegal for them to inquire in your state, and Terminate TALKING when you state your bacon and benefits requirements. Don't exist tempted to fill the silence. Let it get bad-mannered. It's okay. Channel your inner classroom teacher, the one who lets the silence get long before someone hops in with an answer to a question.

    By not filling the silence and starting off my negotiations for my current position with, "Do you lot have relocation assistance available?", I made it clear that I was interested and also that I was willing to advocate for myself. I couldn't go assistance with the relocation costs, simply I did get a significant bump in my entry step level for my nomenclature.

  • Flash - Zootopia Director *

    Hi – Anyone with tips on negotiating an internal job salary or how to ask most that? The task is open up for internal and external applications. I am like applying as the current director of the all prey department to the director of all mammals, carnivores and grazers? The director-of-all-critters pay range can depend on experience so it is tricky and can take significant variability. I am going to try and find out what my dominate makes if I can _though they have more feel in the role and information technology is not a university where you could chase it down. The first part is a screening phone interview then you become forrad (it would be weird if I did not get frontwards, only oh well – that happens and then I've learned something).

  • DiplomaJill *

    What do you do when a range seems totally out of impact? I interviewed for director of web and content strategy a major metropolitan market. The range they said was $85-100k. I almost fell out of my chair. I was the first interview.

    1. Fluff *

      Exercise the completely awkward pause. Listen, polite mouth opening in astonishment, and await wait wait the awkward. Bathe in the awkward silence. I think, like the peachy Helm Awkward once said, savour the awkward. Suns collapse, glaciers melt, whole ecosystems become extinct waiting. If they don't say annihilation, echo it back as confirmation. I did this once and confirmed we were and so far out of sync it did not make sense to go along.

      I heard from a friend (very under paid at the time) about this epic response. Their group was hiring and very much under paid for the role. The guy interviewing on the phone asked the salary range using the AAM classic "Before I allow you lot pay for my travel…" (preCOVID) and information technology went something like this:

      A: Offered salary range
      Guy: Pauses. Waits.

      "Hm. I'thousand non getting on a aeroplane for that."

      I respect the directness and wish I could practise that.

      1. DiplomaJill *

        Yes! Directness is valuable to me. I accept referred to it as "actuality" in interviews. I told them i thought it was depression, but I too said I'd continue talking (considering I discover the process of interviewing instructional).

  • LPUK *

    When Ive been asked virtually bacon expectations by smaller companies when my career has been in big corporates, Ive said something like ' I want a big plenty salary that y'all'll have me seriously when I make recommendations in my role – I empathise it may not be what I make in a large corporation, simply it should be a number you lot'll heed to, to give me credibility in your organization. This is because what's really of import to name is autonomy and influence over strategy.

    1. DiplomaJill *

      I don't base my assessment of credibility on a paycheck. I've known as well many well paid morons I guess. If you said this to me, I don't think I'd move you frontward in a hiring process. This response is not knowing or enlightening or clever — is needlessly complicated and borderline trite.

  • Bowserkitty *

    This is a fantastic round-up. Cheers for writing, compiling and posting!!!

  • Overanalyst *

    This is such a timely post, I guess it's time to make my first comment!

    I've been relying on the posts and comments hither to navigate my commencement job as a Existent Professional, and at present my first task alter: I maxed out what I could do after v years at Starting time Job and I'm looking for a better environment where I can grow.

    Today I got an offering from a place I'yard excited to piece of work at–the hours are Thou-F regular business hours (nights, weekends, and evenings are normal newbie shifts in my field), the surround is at-home, the commute is practically naught, and there's a lot of developments in the company's future that I can exist really helpful with due to skills that are uncommon in my field. 3 months ago, I'd have been thrilled with this offer.

    Just. When I applied, I made the mistake of honestly filling out my bodily minimum bacon requirement at the time (51/hr). I was making most 56. After my raise a couple months later on, I was making nearly 60, and in my job hunt I got two offers for 75+ (without benefits), which I've turned downwards to wait to hear back from this identify, and because those college-paying places hateful higher stress and irregular hours.

    In the phone call, the HR rep offered me 49/hr for this job. I asked if there was room to become upwards, and they called me back with a counteroffer of fifty. 1 dollar more than. During this call I was polite only confused, considering I'd thought I put sixty as my minimum and that'south a huge gap. I checked later, and my memory was wrong. I'd asked for 51, and that was on the low terminate of their range. Whoops.

    I'm wondering if I should try to recollect tomorrow and revisit the salary in calorie-free of the contempo offers, and the fact that I had to say my minimum salary over 3 months ago. The market place value is higher than I thought when I applied.

    Honestly, I would probably have this task even if they can't go upwardly, and afterward I realized I actually said such a low number, I don't feel so stung, but their range was something like 45-68 and I worry well-nigh leaving money on the table. Is at that place a respectful fashion to phrase this request? Or should I just take the lesson learned and ever proper noun a number higher than what I want?

  • LisTF *

    Anyone have any advice on negotiating a gender equality enhance? I've been with my company 3 yrs. My male person coworker has been hither four years. He was hired on at about xvi% more than me, perchance considering I didn't negotiate every bit well as him and/or perhaps because he had some directly relevant experience that I did not. However since then I've definitely gotten up to speed in the areas where he has experience I didn't and I consistently outperform him in productivity metrics. How exercise I approach a chat most asking to be paid every bit with him in our annual operation review where no affair how great you lot are, you generally merely get the standard toll of living heighten unless you're a horrible employee?

  • GLaDOS *

    I have a question. In my showtime interview, I was asked my salary expectation. "Could yous please tell me your range?" I asked (this seems to work 80% of the fourth dimension).

    She said "Sure! It's $100k-$130k."
    "Great! My range is $120-$140, so the tiptop end of that works," I replied (I'm non sure if I should have said that or not).

    I'm almost to take my last interview, and I'm wondering: what if they offer me the job at, like, $100k. Or $115. I really want $130k, but request for $30k (or even $20k) more than is a LOT! And plain I'm supposed to ask for more than than I desire?

    Wondering a good script/advice.

  • Internal Candidate *

    Alison, any resource on negotiating bacon for an internal part that is a promotion? What leverage practise internal candidates have? How do y'all respond if the Hiring Managing director says you're already in the payband for the new higher-level role?

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